to everyone who has replied i want to thank you for your help, you have all been very helpfull in making my decission, at this time i have asked the moderator to close this thread,
and the reason for that is i do not want this thread to turn into negitive postings or bashings in anyway

once again everyone in this tread has been great, with this being my first turbine i feel there are alot of great pilots that i look forward to fly with in the future

once again
thank you

mark

aka trioval00