Originally Posted by gunradd

the thrust vectoring is allot of fun on the F22 and it helps the plane off the runway. The F22 has the cg set ahead of the main gear so it can be hard to rotate. The flaps and slats help with this but the thrust vectoring is the biggest help. When I’m taking off I have the vectoring and elevator cranked pretty hard until the nose gear lifts off then I almost go neutral on the stick. Takes a little practice but it’s nice not jumping off the runway.