flywilly Thanks for the comments. All my Brushfires back in the day never weighed more than 8 lbs. We would really rag on our pattern buddies if they showed up with anything weighing more than 8 lbs. I did manage to build one to 7.5 lbs what is what some what delicate. With todays building techniques and materials I am surprised that planes are weighing in a 10 lbs.

My biggest issue now is the cost of these airplanes. I have not been able to find any kits like before. Fuse and cores. Paying $3000 for an ARF just makes me shudder (and that's just the plane). If anyone knows of kits like these I would love to know. All I can find are ARF's.

I will try my luck in Sportsman next year as I progress back in.