I'm sure you saw my posts in the other rebel pro thread. I think the CARF version is coming out notably heavier than the Pirotti versions. I've read of some in the 33-34lb range.My CARF was about as simple and lightweight as possible(other than the bigger turbine, Swiwin 220) and came in at almost 37lbs. IMO, the 220 is 'decent' power, but if they ever come out with the 250 I will be switching out.