I use xicoy cg scales, so when I say 8 lbs on nose thats what the scale under the nose is reading. So my stabs are going to have to generate 8lbs of down force to lift the nose of the jet. This is with full fuel, my tanks are 4 inches behind the cg so when I land the cg moves about .5 inch forward of this. I might get some slimer tanks that can be moved forward and leave room for the wheel but it flys great as is and I didnt notice any trim change during the flight. I currently have 2.5 lbs of lead in nose but my cockpit and pilot weight 2 lbs so I will end up with almost no nose weight and thats with my engines mounted in the rear.