See then you understand, people who never had or have a jeep .....well they just don't get it. My first Jeep was an 85 CJ7, followed by a 99 wrangler Sahara, a 2017 wrangler four door that my ex wife confiscated and I currently have a 2004 wrangler bought new and now has 315,000 on it, not the original engine anymore, I have a stroker motor in it which I built, headers, fuel management system etc 310hp. gets about an eighth of a mile per gallon lol.