it's getting people to crawl thats the hard bit, i spent 6 months up high drifting downwind alone with no-one else in the club doing it till one day i brought it in low and cracked it. The others that are now getting there are now taking the advice from me and it's working. Cartmans almost cracked it, but not every exit is because he wants to. a couple others are still up high and happy to stay there for now where the plane is safe even tho i've said they are ready to come low.

no-one learns to fly solo first day, 3D is no diffrent.

it's taken me another year almost to slowly start TR whilst mainly improving my control of hang and tail touch, i've now brought it a bit lower that i can get one or two done ok on the Pheonix seeing as it's agility and strenght are so great. The Cougar stays up higher.