Igodin
I would consider a 40%, all fiber, DA-200 powered Edge a good 3D plane.

Do we exclude anything that is less from the 3D category???

If so, all the planes you mentioned are just 'FunFlys'

Most 3D/funflys do most maneuvers well, and others not so well. No plane does everything perfect.

Thats where a good setup, a good pilot and lots of practice come in. If it was easy, it wouldn't be any fun!!!!

I have more respect for a guy that can wring-out a 40 size down low than a guy that can hover a $6K 40% in one spot all day.

The whole thing is relative anyway. It's all about the plane and the set-up you're used to, not what someone else has. I don't use expo or DR's. Some can't fly 3D without -'doesn't mean it's wrong.

My bro just finished up one of these new 'fan fold' profile electrics. UNBELIEVABLE!!!
But is it a 3D plane since it's made of foam- only 30 inches- a profile- powered by batteries???? Or, cause it doesn't do this one part of this one maneuver very well with a tail wind and a full tank of fuel and......

By the way, the biggest reason you're not going to see too many more Pizzazs is because of the hinges and the build quality and knowone's going to ship it back for that.
I just had Horizon send me a role of white and red Ultra cote.

Kirk