The measurement I was referring to was the articulation. I should've been more specific. 75 degrees is pretty good. I tried to solder a few pieces of brass together at work today and I impressed myself! LOL I didn't use silver solder, just normal(what I call it anyway) solder and paste. Any reason to use silver solder? Stronger? Easier to work with? Also, I heard/read somewhere(still trying to find the site again) that there's a technique that uses a torch to smooth out the solder joints. Ever hear of this? I guess if you are good enough at soldering than this makes no difference, but I've been known to have a few ugly joints. LOL