To quote "and the student has some decent reflexes and maybe a little flight sim time, it definately can be done." Yes I have flown a 4*. It is pretty tame if you have experience. If you don't, the planses response and speed is too much for most beginners. I have students that are doing well on an LT40. I tried them on my LT25 because it is fun to fly but the planes quicker response was just too much for them and I had to continually take back control. The response on a 4* is even quicker unless you have the throws cut way back. From what I have seen anyone can learn on an LT40. It may become boring to some students shortly after they earn their wings but at least they can learn the basics on it. Fast!