Tim, Thankx for your comments. If we had more instructors at our club then we would have time to make the required changes on new planes. If something isn't right on a plane we only have time to advise as to what has to be done and move on to the next plane. If the planes are LT40s I don't have to be too concerned if the throw rate is too high. It will still be controllable enough to train on and its not going to be a speed demon. If the plane is a 4*, it won't and I don't have time to fiddle with the rates until I get them right! I had 1 guy join our club because he was having trouble getting trained at his previous club. He had an Avistar with a Supertigre 45 with a 11-7 APC prop. Of course he wanted to go fancy so he had a computer radio with dual rates. The high rate was set at 120%. He didn't know that the buddy box doesn't know anything about dual rates, it just goes to high rate. So now we have a fast plane, set at high rates and he wonders why its too sensitive for him to train on! When 5 new flyers show up at the same time, and there are only 2 instructors, the ones with the flat bottomed planes with reliable engines get to fly first. Clubs with more instructors may be able to spend more time for adjustments ect. but at our club, that isn't the case.