I was able to start at McDonnell Aircraft Co in 1965, there were lots of F-4 airplanes around. They always struck me as just a mean airplane, especially with the teeth on some. I would have made it a requirement on all F-4's.

Then we built the F-15 and I remember the first flight - sitting with the other guys in St. Louis watching the flight on TV. It was on tape flown back I believe. I thought what kind of killer did we make? It looked like a ballerina tip-toeing out to the flight line! It is a smooth sleek but not mean looking airplane. Even with lots of bombs and as unshiney as you can get with some of the drab color schemes it doesn't look mean.

No other airplane from any country beats the F-4 for mean.