It's amazing how much practice it takes to do this. I'm getting to the point that if I don't think about it I can keep the plane vertical even when the canopy is turned away from me (while it's torque rolling). If I think too hard then I fall out from reverse input (wrong input). Also it's hard to keep the plane's canopy pointed towards me with out rotating (torque rolling). It seems like I use the ailerons just to keep it vertical instead of keeping the wings parallel to my face. Maybe I'm not doing it right but I can keep the plane in a hover, just can't keep it from torque rolling.

Also I'm starting to get the rolling harrier elevator and rudder inputs right. It's pretty cool. It does come natural if I relax more and don't think about it.

Anyway, what a challenge. It's a darn good thing I'm doing this on a simulator. I'd go through a lot of planes if I did this with real ones.

Joe