Ha Tony...I don't know what it is about the color scheme on your Ultimate but it is the most appealing colors and scheme that I have found and I have been all over the internet looking at hundreds of planes. There is just something about the way your eye is sucked into the green. Hell I like it...is it Monokote Or UltraCoat..?Do you think the Saito 180 will be enough for good vertical..?[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]