Ben,
You approve of folks attacking EC members and other modelers by the mere fact of your post that ignored previous hostile remarks by jet guys. You also seem to cherry pick sentences out of context of the thread. I guess it is alright when you do it, isn't it?

Kevin,
You have made your point clear, no one who will not bow to your demands is worthwhile or could possibly have a brain and be willing to use it constructively. How do congress critters possibly make laws about retirement, unemployment, military pay, defense procurement since they are not specialists in those fields? That is exactly the thesis you put forward and yet we have laws IN place created by folks with no education in those fields. Want to rethink your bad position or throw more aggressive words out in your attempt to pick a fight? Hint: Don't bother answering, the location of your head is obvious.

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I truly hope the turbine folks get their just deserts rather than the demands I have seen in this forum. Instead of you folks pounding on my approach, lets turn the tables around and do this another much more interesting way. Pray tell why I should NOT stand against you and your bad attitudes and convince me to change my opinion. This is what the EC members must sell to the general membership and someone had better get their act together and give them the tools. Practice on me if you must but first let me give you a quick clue, getting hostile in action or words insures you will LOSE! Have at it and good luck because the time to start discussing alternative approaches with people is here.