Sorry Eldon, next time I get into a thread I'll ask your permission first. And I don't get that expression "talking out of the side of your neck", what the heck does that mean anyways? Shouldn't you have said "talking out of your *****" since that is what you appearantly are accusing me of?

I got into this thread to suggest the Patty as a viable option if Krazy wanted to get a plane in the near future and I'm not bashing the other planes since they I have never seen one for sale. Besides I think the Patty is a pretty good all around plane and the differance as I understand between flying it and the Hurricane would be pretty minor. If you want it to do IMAC style flying go with a 20x10 and if you want 3D go with a 22x8 and move the CG back a little, makes a big differance on mine. I just like the airfoiled tail on the Patty and all around construction but what do I know since I'm not an IMAC competetor and judge as you seem to be.