Well Squabbler Its like this. I thought I would just leave this wing alone and build another tipless model to try. I love the looks of my plane now (which is realy the only reason not to do it) and I know how it flies like this. The KE performance does leave a lot to be desired. Seans plane looks pretty good tipless so I don't know if I care that much now. Maybe not enough to build another wing. Those aileron tips have to go though. One major detraction to tipless for me would be the loss of flat spin performance. Which leads me to build another wing.

Although I run a JR 8103, I think you will like the mix that Ian has laid out. If I am not mistaken It is simmilar to mine where the ailerons go to spoiler around 75 - 80 % of the elevator up throw and flaps at 75 - 80% of down elevator throw. This really does stabilize the Elev, Harrier and Waterfall type moves. I can do nice slow, tight Inverted Harrier circles for a long time with little loss of altitude and complete dirrectional control. The wing remains rock steady. Never feels like it will snap out of it unintentionally.

I am still on Ian's diet over the wing tips though (Banging your head aginst a brick wall.........) Ian, is there a formula for how many head strikes against the wall it takes to burn that 150 callories? Does sheetrock have a different rating? I need about 7 Lbs worth of head banging here still.

Errol