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Old 01-20-2004 | 07:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: Squabbler
Lands at just under ¼ tank.

Maiden flight was made w/ CG @ 150mils and hovering was next to impossible.

I often wonder why it only snaps on inside loops and not outside (waterfalls are linear). BTW, the plane is ballanced latterally as well, HOWEVER, is slightly heavy to the right. I mean slightly. Could this be a factor as well?

But I still like the sprung switch idea, in case I spazz-out.

Q: If I was to raise both my ailerons about 2-3° permanently and re-trim my elev for level flight, would this help stability (I've often wondered)?

Another Q: Have you noticed that rolling harriers are sloppy because of poor KEability (might just be me)?

Oh, and another question: Aside from point mix on up elev-spoil, do you have the same setup in the opposite direction (dn elev-flap)?
Squabbler,
I had a hard time hovering this plane at first with trims and mixes or without. It just got easier for me. I'm not over reacting as much and using a lot less input. Also the Expo I run on high rates makes it less noticable when I bleed into rudder on throttle blips and bleed into elevator on aileron inputs etc. So for me I guess I just got used to it.

I honestly can't answer why it only snaps on up elevator input or inside loops. Wing incedence? No real clue.
I have never latterally ballanced my whole airplane, only statically the wing, and so I don't know how much this will affect the plane in pitch spin inputs. I think I may suffer a bit from that as I need a bit of rudder in waterfalls and backflips. Guess I got some work to do.

It took me a while, with my mentor flicking my index fingers, to get used to always having them pointed at my rate, timer and mix switches. I guess it is kind of like finding the home keys for touch typists (Which I am not). I don't think you should need a sprung switch once you get the snapping issues solved. I can easily land with this mix switched on. If you flip your elevator to low rates for landing, the mix won't even start if your low rates are low enough (around 50%).

The next thing you are talking about is adding a bit of wing washout or fooling the wing into thinking it has washout by mechanically raising the ailerons. I am not going to be a big help here either. I had a H9 Sport CAP 232 .40 size plane that had severe snapping issues with elevator input. Upright or inverted. I tried this and found no real help on that plane. The other problem with that idea is that you adversly affect the inverted elevator inputs. It would be easy enough to experiment with using your Flaps Dial before you go to the trouble of mechanically adding this in. You could put a click or two in spoiler dirrection and a click or two in flap dirrection and see if either helps. Then if there is any help there you could put another mix on MIX 5 or MIX 6 to give slight deflection innitially in the dirrection of elevator travel so inverted flight would not be negatively influenced. I think there is another answer though.I don't need any of that on mine.

I am still learning the rolling harrier so naturally they are sloppy. Need to practice that one more. I definitely think the KE coupling without mixing it out is very noticable in rolling circles. They can be horrible due to the coupling. To the point of real fear for the planes safety. I have a particular speed that my mixes work for and make the plane look gracefull at that speed. Out of that window, I have to fly corrections for KE couple.

If you look closely at the post of the readings from my radio for that point mix, L = 100 and H = -100. You are absolutely right and having one a positive number and the other end a negative number is what does that. Unless I didn't list it right. Can't see it right now.

Hope this helps.
Old 01-20-2004 | 07:37 PM
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Hey Squabbler,

Or maybe we should just clip our wingtips and start over[8D]

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