Me and my dad would like to put together a plane by kit. I was going to get the Somethin' Extra kit but I didn't know if my dad was going to go out on a ship for 4 months and me not be able to finish the plane, instead, I got the ARF Somethin' Extra. I was at the hobby store last week picking up the engine and I brought up I would like to build a kit. Well, he was going for the 4 Star 40, but said that that would be going "down" from the Somethin' Extra, but would be a good first kit to build and a good "Sunday Flyer." Then, we walked around and I saw the Extra..I think that it was Great Planes, but he also recommended that also once, and only once I got used to the Somethin' Extra and could fly the H*** ou to of it. He said that the Extra would kinda be stepping it up a notch and Great Planes?? has more parts to handle. I am really going for the Extra mainly because I LOVE AEROBATICS......they really get me in trouble with my Superstar, but I LOVE THEM.....I don't really want a "Sunday Flyer", I want a "Sunday EXTREMER"......I want to fly like there's no tomorrow..( I fly like that anyways) but I also LOVE the Extra.....WE ALL HAVE TO LEARN SOMETIME, RIGHT??......But I do want an aerobatic plane for my 3rd plane......the LHS man also recommended the P-51....(forgot what manuf. but this plane wasn't really scale)........