Thanks Ramrod, an e-mail is heading your way. I would love to take a look at Ken Williards general ratios for designing RC aircraft. I did manage to find a very useful website with a ton of airplane plans you can download for free. http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/slmohr/ ------ I had to find a program to open these zipped/CAD files. Its called DWG Viewer 3.0 and you can get it here http://download.com.com/3000-6677-85...ml?tag=lst-0-1 ------ What does "Ugly Stick" mean? I see those words used often on rc airplane sites. Thanks!