2fast4U, there are some interesting points here. Hovering is irritating to some, and maybe it should be done / practiced when the sky is fairly empty. Chris540 brings up a very good point. What's more scary, a 45 lb. warbird on a high speed low pass or a large aerobat hovering at zero speed?

Also, you indicated that the gyros fly the planes. Actually, gyros don't fly the planes, the skilled pilots do. Gyros merely provide a gentle buffer for the occasional overcontrol of the rudder. The sensitivity / gain can and perhaps should be turned down as the skill of the flyer increases. I fly with one of the most talented heli flyers in the U.S. He is sponsored etc. I agree with his logic; Use whatever you can to reduce pilot load so you can learn more advanced manuevers. Do you use a fish finder when you fish? If so, why? Did you deny your child training wheels on their first bicycle? If so, why? Would you tell a 15+ year experienced 3-D heli flyer that he shouldn't be using a gyro on his heli-tail? If so, why? There are those individuals who consider it manly / macho to crash without training wheels until you get the hang of it. Not me. I allowed my son to have training wheels. I learned to hover with a gyro and encourage you to try one on your bird if you are learning a move that is very difficult where one might help.

And to 3D Mike, AMEN !!!!!!!!

John Wells