Thanks Fred. I sent an email off to your friend in Texas. I'll post any information I gather here.

Luke, thanks for looking but the stick in Tower is not what I'm lookin for - a little small. Actually if I can't find anything I might just take the plunge and order the new 40 size stick ARF offered over at Lanier. Nice deal, but given a choice I'd rather build. That's what winter is for, he he.