Minn and Ed...thanks for the recall of the other post in regards to GP hinges. I shot an e-mail to them but A properly worded phone call I will be making later on. I used to work for a large chain hobby shop for 10 years so I got to know and met some of the people at GP and they always told me to call them if I ran across something that needed thier attention. I hope it is only a small batch of hinges that are bad so no one else suffers the loss of a plane. In all the years I have been in this hobby I have never heard of the Radio South CA hinges loosing there paper like the GP hinges did...I will use them in the future because I know the method works. The way my luck has been running lately I will be out of flyable planes in 6 months[>:]