one of the problems with copies is they're off most of the time. the one's i got were off over 1" over all length. the sad part to is when you ask if they're copies you always get the " i know there black line or i bought them from a guy bla blaa blaa never a yes or no . well i have a set of copies i'll sell and they are an inch off ! i'll take 58.00 for them 'cause that's what nick gets hahahahaa just joking