My point on safety I think is one that only waldo and spokman seem to have grasped. It is true that the ultimate responsibility lies with the owner of the plane. But, when the plane is fully covered and only a small part of it can be seen for inspection, then how can you make sure it is safe? The only way, would be to remove all of the installed covering and go through all the joints yourself, then invest more money to recover it. Sounds like a waste of time when the whole idea is have a safe model fully built to begin with. Hence, back to my original point. And that is, it is best to be built by yourself with care to ensure integrity.

NEVER trust someone else to build YOUR plane!!!

When the industry has no standards that MUST be followed, unlike full-scale needing strict FAA certification prior to flying, then you are flying something that may look great, but because it was built by some guy who could care a less, then it is a recipe for disaster.

And yes, Jim seems like a great guy, but I will concede it would have been best for him to be behind the prop while taking tach readings. I hope everyone sees the thread where he showed his poor hand all mangled like that, hopefully it can prevent future accidents, especially when dealing with ARF's.

Patriot

Like I said earlier, ARF's have their place, but in my book, not a very big one.