Mouse,

I don't know what plane you are flying, but if, when you bank the plane immediately goes nose down, I would check your Center of Gravity... Sounds to me like you might just be nose heavy. Either that, or you are flying VERY slowly.... By standing the plane up on its wing (the beginneers crank and yank turn) you are not teaching yourself a thing plus you are really putting a heavy G load on your airframe for no really good reason. I kid my students that I am going to put pylon racing numbers on their wings if they don't stop doing those type turns. The purpose of the flying part is to really control the airplane, not just bang the sticks to their stops and hope something good happens. A 45 degree angle of bank is all you need.. it will give you a nice wide turn and the time to realize exactly what your inputs are doing. As I said earlier.. bank..add in elevator to begin turn and maintain altitude, then when turn is complete, opposite aileron to be on heading... You can do it !!!

Deadstik....[8D]