I have found a plane on G2. Stock no modifications what so ever that TR's really well. The Edge 540, all I did was increase the throws and add expo into the radio set up. Its a little tricky getting into position you have to really coax it in but once its verticle I can hold it for a while. I dont know if thats realistic or not if its easier than real life or harder because I just started to get interested in 3D the end of this past season. I have been flying the hell out of RF and hope that I aquired enough experience in the aspects of 3D to get a start on it. As for the modified planes that you can download I can hover those for hours on end, which makes me think that they are not to realistic. If I find that the edge is alot harder than it should be than i will just look at it as real good practice. Figure if I can hover that, the real thing should be fairly easy. If anyone has any info on the actual performance of Real Flight compared to a real plane that would be cool. Its nice to hear from someone who can 3D say, "yea RF download planes 3D just like they do for real or no they dont at all".