YES I unerstand that. Thas why I stated above that I used the stock set up from RF to learn on and I understand that any stock aircraft from RF is extremly hard to learn 3D on. Thats why basically I asked If I had the ability to 3D the STOCK edge from real flight should that be considered somewhat close to the real thing. If you dont know try it. Just pick the standard edge NOT one that you modify OR download. Try to hover it and 3D with it and then see if its close to the real thing.