I posted that question to another thread and came to the conclusion that even the downloaded ones are not realistic in some instances but are in others. I have gone through countless downloades looking for thate plane that simulates all 3D aspects. But I have found from people who know how that they are way to easy and I also found out that the Stock planes on the program are way to difficicult.

Heres what I did I said the only thing real that RF is going to give you is familiarity with the attitude of the plane in a stall speed. So I took the Stock Edge 540 from the program modified its control surfaces for 3D and thas all. Then I proceeded to learn how to hover with it and go on from there. I figured if these planes were soooo difficult to 3D on if anyone could then adapting these skills to your real plane should be a little eaiser.

Now I can take that edge 540 STOCK and do all kinds of stuff with it including hovering and TR 6 inches above the ground, pull out and not twist it in or stall it more. Granted it may not be real but I have sharpened my skills so input corrections in a stall to where I can do it with out thinking. And from what I have read that is key to start learning to hover and basically do anything while your plane is in a stall state. GOOD LUCK.

Oh, Ps I have heard the Aero Flight Professional commonly refered to AFP in here is the absolute best simulator for 3D learning. Planes right from the program ready to learn on set up and all. I am looking into getting it soon. The lessons are there to teach you 3D too.