Due to the crappy weather I did take out the 8411 on the rudder and fit an 8611. Chip was very clear on the fact that it does not need two servos on the rudder and that it also does not need a lot of throw. You will see that the fin is not beveled and that the rudder can't really travel that far. The way his flew I have to agree with him. However, it was still easy as for me to rationalise the need for an 8611 (VBG) [ wife does not read this conference]