Recieved my ARF version of the Giant size Stinger. All i can say is what a improvement over the kit version. This bird is a lot liter and well built. The covering is excellant and i really like the color scheme of red , black and white. I am putting a Brison 4.2 up front for all out aerobatics and 3d. This plane has never been considered for 3d but i seen one last season on a fpe 4.2 that was awesome . The arf version has built up wings and no plastic crap to vibrate loose for constant repair. I am really impressed with this bird and for $380 bucks with all quality hardware All American hardware i might add i feel it is a good buy.