I have never seen those planes you're talking about on the field... I think that is a strong message.

One's I have seen in mass are the (in no particular order)

1. Hobbico Avistar
2. Kyosho Calmato

I personally have flown the Calmato numerous times to help beginners with first flight trim and I must say... the kits go together well. Another one that I've seen more of recently (but I personally don't like the graphics) is the WM Raider Mach I.

But if I were to start all over again, I would get the Calmato with a O.S. 70 four stroke... I have seen it at the field and it's a keeper!