I guess maybe my expectations were very high after reading the posts here. I find if you try to hover (I'm not really good at it but I can hold my Ultimate pretty good) it falls either on it's back or to the left and there it no holding it there at all, even with full control throws. The roll coupling with the rudder is awful, in a KE or any manuver with rudder it makes the plane "twist" all over the place. Although it flys straight with no problem as soon as you pull straight up you immediately have to start feeding in down elev. and right rudder, the longer you go vertical the farther you have to push the sticks. I'm going to try a bit of down & right thrust on the engine, that might help. I found it very unstable to land, when you pull the throttle back the nose pitches up and it just wants to keep flying until all airspeed is gone, then wants to drop like a rock. A tight loop will make it snap like crazy, a sign of tailheavy but it's balanced at 4 1/2" and it does it with fuel tank full or empty. I don't like the upright engine, now the top of my plane gets full of goo instead of the bottom. Actually in 5 flights there was absolutlely nothing that I could find that I liked about the plane. The only good thing was the new YS .63 that I started for the first time, it started, idled and ran flawless right out of the box. This is the second one of these I have broken in over the last year and these engines are simply amazing, I've been flying 20 years and have never had engines run like these do right out of the box. Running very rich (for break in) the .63 will yank the plane straight up like it was shoot out of a cannon, can't say enough about these engines, incredible.

So there it is in a nutshell, maybe it's me, I don't know. I'm looking out the window and it looks like a good day so I'll give it another try, but I don't hold much faith. I had one other plane that went about the same way. In the late 80's after listening to all the hype I built a .60 sized Super Hots and was bitterly disappointed with that plane. One night I was trying to loop it through a limbo pole and it met it's demise, maybe I'll try the same"trick" again with the "Twist", after I put one of my old engines on it, Ha ! Ha !