I tried several different plane trying to hover but I was unsuccessful until I tried Ultimate . I don't like bi-planes but I have just fell in love with this plane. There one on the Realfilght swap page9 which you can try. The only problem I have noticed so far and I think other members have mentioned it is that the ailerons are very ineffective, just like not been there. As far as AFP goes, I have watched couple of demo videos, it has been incredible, planes go inside the visitor areas hover around the picnic tables, sometimes sit down for a drink, then take off , very impressive but I was wondering do the real plane can do than, I have been to several TOC's I tell you the best pilot in the world would be in awe what AFP can do.