I have heard comments about the article made in model aviation regarding needing a 33% or 40% plane to perform 3d. I'm curious what is everyones definition of hovering or other 3d maneuvers.

I have seen small planes do 3d however they didn't look very good. Looks like the plane is basically out of control. I have NEVER seen a small plane hover as I would define it. To me hovering is maintaining control for as long as the pilot desires. It wasn't until I started flying 33% planes that I felt I was beginning to achieve this level of control. Note beginning, still have a long way to go. If hovering means stopping the plane for 1-2 revs than I can hover anything with enough power.

I believe the article may be defining the level of control not just doing a maneuver.

The new 3d planes coming out look very interesting. I have a Fun Extra on order from 3W. Its been 3 mos. and its always going to ship next week. Someday. Anyone flying it?

I notice all the pics of planes are at nice grass fields. Not in AZ our field is dirt and when hovering, the plane can be engulfed by dust. I'm sure most of you have seen this at the TOC. This is how I came up with blowin dirt.