I found that the low rate elevator setting in the manual with high rate rudder and high rate aileron. I start with a full up stall (wings level & don’t use the ailerons to start the spin) use only full rudder and full low rate elevator and let it spin 3 times and start feeding in opposite aileron and some down elevator. If you feed this in to fast it will Twist out. This works at CG 4.5 to 5.0. I have problems landing it too at CG 5.0 but I try to bring it in slow & level pass low and drop the throttle the rest of the way before it goes nose high. At CG 5.0 it flies better but you can’t land it unless you do Harriers to bring it down. I keep breaking wood props, I wish the landing gear was longer.