saw one fly yesterday w/ gas. i think brison 46?/?? anyway it was way overpowered. it also was way over weight but it actually didnt seem to hurt it too bad. it still looked like it was light in the air.

the guy said it was at almost 16 lbs he was still getting used to it. he said that DP didnt recomend any more than the 180. and that it would be plenty for 3D. he went with gas because its cheaper to opperate. but he said he was rethinking this one. it looks great.