two different ainimals all togather. Patty wagstaff hands down. There is no comparison to a 1/4 scale airplane vs a .40 size plane. JUst read the threads on the patty. When you read about people having thier second and third of the same plane it tells you something... It was good enough to buy it again and again. I love mine and when it is gone. I will replace it with the same plane. I hope they never discontinue this plane , but if they do I will buy one as a spare.