THawk all the way man. I just got mine a couple weeks ago, and its awsome! Im new to rc flight, and taught myself to fly with it. I can do loops already and land really good with the landing gear on. Its really easy to do ROG takeoffs or a little harder to do hand launches. I can fly it in 10 mph winds easily to, like today. I even received a warped rudder, and emailed them, and got a new one for free shipped really fast! Its very strong to. I crashed into trees alot, and hit curbs and even hit a pole at 20 feet high and smashed into the pavement. ALl it suffered was some dents and crease marks in the wing. I just added some packing tape to the bottom of the wing for support and off i went. I got a differnt radio system with it, the Hitec flash 4 with feather receiver, but I know someone who got it stock and its fine. Good luck on your new plane, which ever one you choose