Showgun, i in no way took what you said as being brash or anything else, it was the WELL SPOKEN TRUTH !!! I looked at the Ultra Stick, its a high wing so to speak ? Im looking really hard at the Hanger 9 Twist 3D.....what about it Showgun ?

I cant remember the other two of ya's names as the window closes when replying lol, but thanks for all of you being here and helping and giving advice, it really means a lot !