Heya Showgun ! Wellll, so you think the Twist is worth a shot huh....i like the looks of it, and yea from looking at some of the others and the prices, i was kind of thinking the same thing you are, not to bad. So the ST45 made it noise heavy, hmmmmm, with the engine rating i wouldnt have thought that, ive got a YS 45 and also a YS 61....I dont know what the weight specs are on the ST45, i think on the YS its about 14+ ounces.....i think ONCE i can find one of the Twist's i will get one and try it...seems its out of stock a lot of places, i called a couple of hobby shops here and they said they dont have them in stock, that they cant keep them in stock, seems its a pretty hot seller right now. I understand what your telling me about the flight sim to learn and help as a teaching aide, i have never used one of them, and i learned to hover my heli and all without one, not saying that it wouldnt have made it easier as im sure it would have, but i had a good guy here to work with me on the heli stuff.....it was a WHOLE different ball game learning to get one of them up let me tell ya, ive got a long ways to go with it yet though, i can hover fine, now ive got to start with noise in hover and learn that...then on to forward flight i guess. Ill get there, just keep flying and learning is all.

I appreciate all of the info you have given me...and if you think that the Twist is worth a shot, ill go get one and see.....think its a good one to start out with ?