tmproff: Thanks very much for the help. I just got online, been working on my house to get it ready to sell. I will print your data out and give it a try. You have done a very good reply on the sequence of doing things. I will give it a try when I get more time. Right now it is good weather too paint ect. on house. Best of the Best to you, a very nice person that probably has helped others for many years. John