ggordan, I own an extra witch i feel the same way about we proped it down for landing purposes, witch worked great but this and i would amagine with any extra it flys at only one speed fast or it will drop like a rock!......I just resently purchased a [link=http://www.aero-works.net/store/]aeroworks 540T[/link] EDGE in witch i find a sweet flyer at low speeds this plane just dosent want to land i have to input down elavator to land it .... I installed a OS46FX 12.25 x 3.75 prop witch is more than enough power and no weight added .this plane is ultra light but sturdy and a fun flyer check them out. its like flying a kite with no strings attached lol...its high and wide wing enable it to float better...its buy fare the best arf ive built yet.. my son owns a ucando 46 witch is a floater but i enjoy flying this more and it atracts alot of attention at the feild Good luck Bill