tIANci,
You probably are onto something about me being hesitant to fly it slow. It will tip stall with little warning when I slow it down, too slow obviously.

At slower thottle settings and airspeed, I don't have enough energy to get through the maneuvers. I will try experimenting with some lower pitch props. That will let me fly slower and at a high power setting, but the thrust will be there for my vertical maneuvers. I think a 14x4 would be a drastic jump, especially since my goal is not to fly 3D. BTW,Idle is nice and low.
Thanks!
Glenn