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yes marc i do mean rcu! spike was rambling on about nothing positive, and when i asked if he was bent about it he called ME a troll! i couldn't believe that, i try very hard NOT to speak my mind about issues like this, but this one in particular really bunched my undies! i really enjoy these sites and mostly chat rooms, i think i have met some pretty good friends in both places. sorry about the ramblings!---henry