well... mavrick just got his eflite ultimate good and he flew it and i got the tribute... he likes it alot... id leap for chi hydes raptor if you know 3D... the hellraiser has fuselage breaking issues. thats its only fault... but people definitely are impressed with how the raptor looks and flies... use hobby-lobby's recomended setup except use 3s apogee 830s... ull never believe the vertical