Thanks for all the info, I flew my ultimate today and tried to hover it. I did better than I had thought I would, I actually hovered it for a few seconds, then it started torque rolling on its own and I lost it into some bushes, no damages.

However as always my bad luck got me, I just landed my plane adn it tipped forward so I went to get it and when I got their the motor wouldnt work. I smelt it and it smelt burned.

I took the motor apart and shure enough both brushes were disintegrated. One was completely gone nowhere to be found and the other apperentely flew off and melted into the plastic that held them inplace. I dont know why they burnt out so fast, I was using the recomended setup and had only flown it for like 5 minutes.

After the plane landed it tipped forward and I dont know if its what caused it but I think I still had the throttle on at about 1/2 speed and didnt notice it till I got over to the plane and noticed the motor didnt work. Could this have burnt the motor out? The prop was resting on the ground and couldnt spin.

I checked on the horizon site and my bad luck struck again, their out of the motors till "late october". The only other motors I can find are a parkzone speed 370, and a great planes speed 370 but I dont know if they will work as I cant find any specs for the stock motor.