narpets - I know there is always something to do. As much as I do want this plane for touch and go's, I have others for 3D if I want aerobatics. I will most likely end up with an Extra and learn some IMAC sequences with it. My biggest goal with this plane is to have a winter project, and then to have a plane that I can use to go "back to basics" and fine tune skills that I never spent time on since I was in such a hurry for 3D. I am thinking the Extra combined with precision might be another option.