I originally got XTR cos I was principally flying helis at the time but since the advent of 3D foamy shockflyers I'm only really flying planes these days and I find that the planes in XTR (especially the downloads of 3D foamy shockies from www.rc-sim.de) work almost exactly like the real models. The physics are brilliant - very realistic and I can now hover and torque roll to my hearts content - with all the practice that XTR allowed it must have saved TONS of repairs!

Cliff