15 seconds?? I can't hover that long! Don't know for sure about this topic, but I am in the middle of putting a MVVS 2.15 gasser on a Creek hobbies Extra 330L. I am not sure what to expect but you guys can expect a full review once I get to fly it a few times. I would have to dissagree that the H9 Cap and Edge dwarfs the Lanier Edge. I now have a H9 Cap and I used to have the Lanier Edge. A friend of mine has a H9 Edge. The H9 planes are a little larger but I would not say that they dwarf the Lanier. IF you want a real 3D monster put a Saito 180 on a Goldberg Ultimate. I have that combo and it is really a fun combo. Good luck on whatever you choose.